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New update.

Features for fw 1.8:
* more compatibility with media disks
* fixed a stability problem
* code optimzed for fast operations


For Argon users, when load a dat, check your IDCODE........

IDCODE = 2a121cf     = A3P125      (need http://www.infectus.biz/downloads/Argon125 1.8.dat (http://www.infectus.biz/downloads/Argon125 1.8.dat))
IDCODE = 2a141cf     = A3P250      (need http://www.infectus.biz/downloads/Argon250 1.8.dat (http://www.infectus.biz/downloads/Argon250 1.8.dat))


For Infectus 1/2 users

http://www.infectus.biz/downloads/infectus_wiiktus1.8.dat (http://www.infectus.biz/downloads/infectus_wiiktus1.8.dat)

Infectus2 -> Remember to set  BOTH SWITCHES TO OFF

Program and enjoy! :P

 ;D
Nice one guys, off to test.

Great !!

Thanks  :D

THANKS THANKS THANKS -----------------------------

My Pal Wii with my INFECTUS II (i dont know how many wiresssss....)

Wii originals.......runs.........
Wii backups.......runs like always.........
MY GAME CUBE backups PAL.............RUUUUUUUUUUUNSSSSSSSSSSSSS
            I tested mario kart pal and animal crossing pal.

THANKYOU VERYMUCH, the future is in your hands............

Will be testing it tonight :)

OK  :D
Pal console 3.1E FW 1.8 and Ikaruga NTSC - Working :) 480p no gcos (wierd stripes in top 2 inches of screen)

Mario DD NTSC no change on black screen.

Nice work guys. Thanks.

wow that was fast ,hope that whit that version my orginal disk works.

original disks work with every version

They didnt on 1.7b for Infectus.

worked fine on 1.7 for me. I dunno what you mean with the "b" version. Maybe the 250 actel version?

Is this classed as a Beta or final version ? Everything was working with 1.7 b ,but like to stay up to date.  :)

The old 1.7b for the Infectus. It was posted yesterday and removed after it was found to not work with originals. A working 1.7 for Infectus was posted in it's place, followed by the 1.8 update.

Just updated to 1.8 still having problems with errors when putting the games in they do load  if you keep putting them in although my wii has done this on all argon firmwares been told its my wii laser... i use verbatim dvd-r disks

PAL Wii with firmware 3.2E and Infectus2

All works perfectly !!!! :D

There is a function not described: NOW THE LEDS ON THE PROGRAMMER WORK IN NORMAL USE!!!!!! :D :D :D

I love the blue led blinking :D :D :D

Hmm okay. Guess I missed that....

i had the same problem m8. every disc tht i put came as an error. my problem was tht i added the extra 4 wires n because wii is pal i needed to connect the wire to the point V but i had it connected to SX. Might be the same problem for yu (if yu hve the extra 4 wires of course)  ;)
O yh some1 mentioned they had problems wit originals, but i neva had ANY problems wit originals not even on fw 1.2.

yes ive got the 4 region free wires cant be that because the games do load if u keep putting them in and so do ntsc games...

I was having choppy video playback on 1) Wario Ware and 2) Sonic + Mario at the Olympics. This problem has been totally fixed with the new firmware.

The FMV Intro's would lag very bad on all media: Sony DVD+R burned at 4X, Verbatim DVD+r at 4x and Verbatim DVD-R at 4X.

Excellent Update. Thanks!!!

Is there any way you guys could add a DVD playback function to the chip? I know that Wiikey has some homebrew software that you can load. But this is Infectus...and anything is possible...

you can run the wiikey utility disc on argon too. it's not chip specific.

Just received my "Argonized" Wii!!

PAL Wii 3.2E..
Argon 1.8..
..Wii Original..PERFECT..
..Wii Backups [DVD-R Verbatim@16x]..PERFECT!!

Great Job!  ;D

Thanks for the really fast update!
you guys Rock!

Hi Guys,

It would be better and better,

my last problems with 1.8 (125) on my PAL Wii LEH165 D1A-Board

1) Im ust break Mario Sunshine Intro !!!
If i play it regular, it comes the information, that i must pull out the GC bla bla ...

If i break the intor Movie between, press A its all OK !!

2) the problem, that the programmer must unpluged for 100% funkction.

For Example: If i want to Play EA Playground and programmer was plugged,
                  the disk don´t can be read, everytime --> blackscreen.
                  With unplugged Programmer no Problems, the Game starts direct !!
                  Same Problem at Need4Speed
thanks

all seems to be working on my 3.1U wii infectus2

thanks guys

nice the led blinking!!

Good, I try another game cube backup with black screen on my wii pal, the game is mario party 5, i had black screen, with Gcos autodetect green screen, i think the game is pal but i  am not sure........

The others backups are running good. Thanks.-

A question.... Its good or bad to extract the programer of the wire in the infectus 2? What do you usually do?, you let the programer in the wire or you extract it?, can i break the wires if i put and extract a lot of times?...........

tested 48 silver disk NTSC wii games (not gc games) on PAL WII(13+4 wires, 1.8 fw), 30 fully works, 18 freeze on load(same freeze on wiikey), all games can be seen the logo on disk channal. really a lot improve compare the result with 1.7 firmware which only 5 works.

Following games freeze on load
table tennis
ice age2
chicken little
scarface the world is yours
mario party8
victorious boxers revolution
bust bash
sammy's collection
prince of persia rival swords
splinte cell double agent
call of duty 3
dragon blade wratte of fire
ratatouille
brunswick pro bowling
the simpsons game
dance dance revelution hottest party
boogie
shirek the third

my led doesnt blink on the injectus when plugged in only thing it does do is stop the wii playing ntsc games... the red light only comes on with mine and the blue when plugged in via usb

I am using argon 1.8_125 ntsc with the four additional wires installed. when I try to play smash bros brawl jap the main screen comes up and when I hit start I get a black screen. I made the iso regon free and used the wii brick blocker on it. I even tried to unplug the programmer and still nothing. other then that I am not having any problems, great work Infectus!!!!

Does it say loading at the bottom right of the screen?  The game does take a pretty long time to load.  I have mine RegionFrii and used WiiBrickBlocker too.  Maybe you should try burning it on better media at 4x.

didnt see anything at the bottom, using dvd-rw, they worked with all the other games that I have, I will try burning slower and give it more time.

thanks.

Looking at the regional compatibility chart most of those games are not compatible playing on a PAL wii.

 :-\ don,t work on my wii (PAL) infectus2 but v1,4 works fine .the light in bank 0 lights up and stay there are no light in the others like when i use v1,4 only original games works ????????????????? how can it be.



regards tudegrim ??? ??? ??? ???

plz can some1 confirm that ssbb work whit wiiktus 1.8,4 me it starts and then comes a white screen ??? i have a Pal wii ,i have updatet the wii whit the jap firmware (doople channels),burnt on a vebratim dvd+r dl.can some1 help.

How about searching.

Here is the SSBB thread...

http://www.infectus.biz/forum/index.php?topic=785.0

Look for the part where you use the layer break 2084960 fix.

Why this firmware is not yet in the home? He is not official? Please Oscar and Infectus, update the site. Bye

If there are not bad reports, it will be the official. Just few days more to check.

Pal Wii  13+4 wires, 1.8 fw:

GameCube: THU2 (PAL) = then however [an error has occurred. turn the power...]

with GCOS:
- 480p, PAL60Hz, Auto-detect, 50Hz, NTSC= then however [an error has occurred. turn the power...]


other everything runs...



nice Job

Start the Game without pluged GC-Memory-Card and start it with GCOS with the settings:
No Audio Emulation
normal PAL

Then it starts up on my PAL-Wii without errors.

Congratulation to Infectus for the great job :) ;) :D >

Is it possible to have a fix where we can keep the Injectus attached to the ribbon cable  and have everything work as normal?

I've mine attached all time and works fine..

Cud some1 do me a favor plz.
If anyone of yu got a GC Action replay (a back up one) cud yu try to run it on argon chip fw 1.8 to see whether it's workin or not?

strange if i leave my injectus plugged in ntsc games dont boot just say unable to read disk pal games load whether injectus is plugged in or not plugged in i would like to have to have it plugged in all the time and also have the blue light flashing when booting a game is this possible? would be a nice feature

This is getting a little frustrating. I updated my Wii to 3.2U, and I have the 1.8 firmware. I have a US Wii. I am once again getting the Choppy Video Playback bug on all the games I have tested so far.

Choppy video on: Super Mario Galaxy, Wario Ware, and Dragon Ball Z 3

All of the disks are now burned on Verbatim DVD-R at 4X and 6X using Img Burn.
I had these on DVD+R Verbatim (Video not as choppy), and Sony DvD+R, where the Video is still very choppy.

It is really annoying to have to watch the really bad video playback. Is anyone else having this problem??

I had it once. Turned out here were grease spots (fingerprints) on my disc. After cleaning it was fine. So it probably is media/burner/wii lense related. It can't read the data fast enough for the cutscenes to play smooth.

Burn more faster!
..all my backups goes PERFECTLY fine with Verbatim -R @16x!

I've exactly the same problems of you!
3.2E, Pal WII, FW 1.8
Super mario galaxy and DragonBall Z 3 plays with choppy video. SMG semms to do this only in the first video. I've tried to burn my Verbatim -R to 8x instead of 4x, but the result it's the same. I haven't fiind a solution yet... I'll try to burn SMG to 16x

My Wii is 3.2E..Argon 1.8..SMG on Verbatim ADVANCED AZO+ -R @16 runs PERFECTLY!

some burners also have better resuts then other burners. And indeed don't try to burn slower. It only increases writing errors.

You've to watch the burner max speed too..mine is 18x..so i can write at 16x without problems..maybe if yours has max speed 16x it's better to burn @12 o 8x..it's always better to don't effort the device..

SMG burn at 8x and 16x. 8x choopy like 4x, 16x in the first 3/4 seconds the video is PERFECT, no slow, no choppy, but after these 3/4 seconds the video and the sound is slowly and choopy like before, so no solution with 16x burn

reporting my findings:
PAL wii with argon white dot installed.
Backups working
Tried some originals, Zelda, Wii sport, ...  and it has issues reading the toc? (drive spins slow , makes a lens popup sound then engine stops in order to retry this procedure. It never starts spinning like a recognized disk. if i wait a while the disc gets recognized (after 2 minutes...) then runs perfect! clearly a toc reading issue, but this started after flashing to 1.8. Hope i am not the only one with this toc issue.

My zelda seemed to have similar problems on Infectus 1.8. It ran perfectly under 1.4, but now I occasionally get the "Unable to read disc" screen and the drive does sound like t has a lot of trouble during the initial read.

I updated to 1.8 from 1.3 and I notice a loud noise while trying to boot games that never happened before.
 
In 1.3 I could't play any Gamecube games but these ones seem to work now :

Mario Tennis
Mario Dance Dance Revolution
A multigame Emulator (got it to boot but no game seems to play, I think it's the emu it's self :( )

And these ones have errors :

Skies of Arcadia Legends ( really wanted to play this one ) but error saying unable to read disc.
Eternal Darkness ( also really looking forward to this game, heard so much about it) Loads up to title screen and a voice starts, then I get an error on screen saying there is a problem with this disc.
Crazy Taxi This game seems to play fine, but I have all horizontal black lines up top of the screen that arn't supposed to be there.


And last one is a WII Game, TRAUMA CENTER: NEW BLOOD . It see's the disc in the drive, and when I go to play it by clicking START, it just goes to a black screen. And it freezes my wii. ONly way to get off it is by disconnection the power at the back.


Btw, my Wii is a PAL Console, but I have played other NTSC games before in it, out of the ones I've tested it's just this NTSC one. Anyone else have a Pal consoel and got New Blood to work ?

EDIT: I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but I flashed it back to Argon 1.7 and now Skies of Arcadia is working and doesn't make those loud noises when trying to boot a game. But unfortunately NEW BLOOD is still the same  :( :( :( :(

eternal darkness works fine here on my pal console

I can't say definitively until I have time to run some tests (might be a couple days), but it seems something has changed in the Wii backup read code. I tried starting Super Mario Galaxy and it came up as unreadable disc. Had to reboot the Wii (completely power down and power back up) and then eject the disc and put it back in. Then it worked. Played for about 3-4 hours, got to the end movie in SMG and it stopped half way through with the "an error has occurred" message. I ejected the game and put it back in and a couple seconds later the movie continued playing. The laser also sounds like it's having problem keeping in sync with the tracks on the disc at times. But besides that, no hiccups while playing.

Similarly, Zelda had some trouble getting recognized (Unable to read disc). And the first time I booted it on 1.8 it had the "Error has occurred" screen.

Has anybody else been getting these messages on Infectus 1.8? Infectus 1.4 didn't seem to have any of these problems, but something might've happened when I was upgrading to 1.8.

I'm gonna flash it back to 1.4/1.7 and see if I still have issues sometime in the next couple days hopefully. Just wanted to see if anybody else was having similar problems.

This is a NTSC Wii w/ Infectus 1 - Wiiktus 1.8.

I didn't even bother to put the update, i got an ntsc 3.2u  wii, all my backups 30 games are working perfect not one problem, i only play wii games, very happy customer, keep up the good work.

I reburned the isos at 8X on Verbatim DVD-R.  This is the fastest my DVD burner will burn. I am still getting the choppy video on FMW. The video is extremely bad on SMG opening scene.

This was on a US Wii, with Firmware 3.2U, and 1.8 Firmware.

If infectus could put out an update to fix this, this would be appreciated. I have the Argon 125 chipset, and noticed that others are having the same problems also.

The media was also burned on DVD+R Sony at 4 X and Verbatim DVD+R at 4 X with the same problem. The install is good, and was done professionally, and the wii is less than 2 months old (played for one). I doubt it can be the machine itself.

Thank you in advance for looking into the problem.

It is not an issue with the firmware. I have the same setup as you NTSC(3.2U) ARGONG 125 with 1.8 and it works perfectly fine plus hundreds of users have updated to 1.8 firmware with no issue. Check your instillation again (make sure if the 4 extra wires have been installed they are installed properly). Plus try using different media burn at half the rated speed with IMGburn

Excellent updated firmware. Gamecube games work somewhat now.

I'm having an issue with Super Mario Sunshine (NTSC-U). There is an error during the intro. I am running Agron 1.8, on a NTSC-U Wii.

If you skip the intro, the game works fine as far as I can tell.

Hi, I have an NTSC WII with 1.8 Argon 125

All games tested are NTSC


WII originals                       --      All work perfectly!

WII backups                       --      All work perfectly!

Gamecube originals              --      All work perfectly!


Gamecube backups...



Non Working


Mario Power Tennis             --      Freezes while trying to start a tennis match

Paper Mario tyd                  --      Freezes during game

Super Mario Strikers             --     Freezes when going into a match

Super Mario Sunshine           --     Freezes at professor 

Windwaker                         --     Error reading disk or freezing during game

Resident Evil Zero                --     Freezes during game

Resident Evil 1                    --      Can play for long periods of time but still freezes

Resident Evil 2                    --      Freezes during game

Resident Evil 3                    --      Freezes during game 

Eternal Darkness                 --      Freezes at Edgar Allen Poe

Beyond Good & Evil              --      Freezes at a cut screen


Working



Bomberman Jetters              --      Works perfectly!

Bomberman Generation         --      Works perfectly!

Super Smash Bros Melee       --      Works perfectly!

Mariokart DD                      --       Works perfectly!

Geist                                --       Works perfectly!

Metroid Prime 2 Echoes        --       Works perfectly!

Phantasy Star I and II         --       Works perfectly!

Luigi's Mansion                   --       Works perfectly!

Wario World                       --       Works perfectly!



All Games have been tested as long as it took for errors to occur.

Someone please reply if they've had different results with these NTSC games on an NTSC WII.

Argon  team, you guys are doing a great job! 1 or 2 more versions of the firmware and you'll have it perfect.

Thanks!!!
   

Eternal Darkness                 --      Freezes at Edgar Allen Poe

Is this at the title screen of the game Ugotit and you hear a voice then it says please restart your system or something like this can't rememebr and freezes ? If so I got the same problem as you on this game.

Yes exactly.

All of the above games work perfectly fine for me exept for Super Mario Sunshine. If you direct boot you get the error message after the professor ask Mario to get some assitence. Fix for this is shrinking the image or use GCOS boot disc.

Have you seen wasabi?

No SPAM

There's a thread open on wasabi..no need to refer it here..

It seems to me that the newer firmware puts more strain on the drive and also seems louder when loading during a game.  Maybe the more "efficient" code may load faster but the drive is louder.  I'm not sure if I'm the only one noticing this.

Hi
ive got super mario sunshine ntsc game backup and when i put it in my wii with firmware 1.8 argon it loads in the menu but when i press start it black screens with a little bit of green at the bottom left hand side whats the prob dont ntsc gamecube games not work with a pal machine?

Low, on my wii with 1.8 super mario shunshine runs fine. I selected Auto for screen mode.

is your sunshine game ntsc? and is your wii a pal?

tested on PAL wii
GC (all games PAL):
Multiiso
Mario Kart   -  Works
Geist - freezes when try to start. i heard sound once but then never again
Star fox adventures/assault - works
star wars rebel strike - works

for now i only had problems with Geist. anybody know if it works on single dvd without making a multiiso? i don't want to waste a DVD. getting really expensive ;)
selected setting in menu: PAL60 (since the game only runs with PAL60)

WII (all games PAL):
for now EVERY!! games works without any mistakes, freezez etc.

I flashed my Argon with the 1.8 firmware today and did some testing.
I believe version 1.8 is close to perfection, but still not perfect.
Here are my results

- All Wii games I have work ! Originals and copies. Pal and NTSC.
- Some games have choppy video playback. However it worked fine on firmware 1.3. So somehow something happened to the dvd playback speed in version 1.8.
- Some games on multigame Gamecube disc don't work (black or green screen). However they do work on another wii with a wiikey installed. So I guess there's a small problem with multigame discs.
- Single GC discs all work perfect.
- Some games won't start or crash with the injectus attached.

So here's the points for improvement.
1) Choppy video/drive speed
2) Injectus permanent attached
3) More compatibility with GC multigame discs.

But overall I think I can say 1.8 is very good and close to perfection !!
I'm happy i have an Argon.

Thanks !

Rene

 I have upgraded my argon chip to firmware 1.8 (125), but i have only 13 wires (I have updated from version 1.0) and the originals doesn't work. My Wii has 3.2E firmware.
I understand that it suposed to work even if I have only 13 wires; is this true ? or I have to add the other 4 wires.
plz answer me.
thanks

you don't need the 4 wires for your originals unless they are from another region.

Hi, I have an NTSC WII 3.1U with 1.8

All games tested are NTSC and have ben shrinked


WII originals and Backups      --      Works

Gamecube originals              --      Works


Gamecube backups...

Pikmin - Freezes After NEW GAME
Pikmin in GCOS - Freezes After NEW GAME
Pikmin in GCOS AUTO - Freezes After NEW GAME
Pikmin in GCOS NTSC - Freezes After NEW GAME

Pikmin 2 in GCOS AUTO - Freezes in screen of safety
Pikmin 2 in GCOS NTSC - Freezes in screen of safety

Hello Kitty Roller Rescue in GCOS AUTO - Green Screen
Hello Kitty Roller Rescue in GCOS NTSC - Green Screen

Harvest Moon Magical Melody in GCOS AUTO - Freezes at Nintendo Screen

Super Mario Sunshine GCOS in AUTO - Freezes after professor ask for help

Mario Kart DD in GCOS AUTO - Freezes in Dolby Surruond Screen
Mario Kart DD in GCOS NTSC - Freezes in Dolby Surruond Screen

Mario Party 4 in GCOS AUTO - No Video, only sound
Mario Party 4 in GCOS NTSC - No Video, only sound
Mario Party 4 in GCOS PAL    - No Video, only sound

Mario Party 5 in GCOS AUTO - Works OK

Mario Party 6 in GCOS AUTO - Works OK

Mario Party 7 in GCOS AUTO - Freezes after Nintendo Screen (White Screen)
Mario Party 7 in GCOS NTSC - Freezes after Nintendo Screen (White Screen)

Someone has run these games?
I have other games but not tested yet, someone has these games to test and post as?

OBS.: I do not have the programmer, I took my Wii + Argon to update on a stamp. It is possible that the technician has not placed the version 1.8?

TKS

It sounds like you might not have 1.8. Mario Kart DD (NTSC on NTSC) runs fine on my Wii. I haven't tried a GCOS disk yet, but I will later tonight if I have time.

as we know there is a list of games cannot run under different reginon wii. while argon state it has the advantage upgrade function which could bring the endless power. so it should have the ability to fix this problem.  however, at this moment(firmware 1.8 ) the compatibility problem still exist the same as the other modchip on the market. which make it no difference compare with the other product on this market. let's keep an eye on it see if arogn can jump out of the rest of the market.

Yeah I really hope the Argon team can get all the ntsc games to play eventually, as I would really love to play the Trauma games and I'm guessing more games will come out to that are good that we won't be able to play unless they bring out a fix for it.

I have found to with the Wii, not sure if it's the chip or the laser on the wii, but it's very fussy with different brands of discs and the programs you use to burn them.
A game won't run at first, but if you burn the same game using different media/program, it will the next time.

I've found it quite the opposite, Games have worked with various cheap discs using Nero 8 at fast burn speeds without any problems at all.

Same here, my wii's have been very happy with different 'normal' quality brands like Ritek / cmc etc.

Allot of the cheaper media might work but they will degrade faster.

So for me longer life outweighs the price. In the long run better quality media ends up costing less since it last longer.

Take my movies for instance. I used Imation, Sony, Memorex when I first started backing up my movies. Within 10 months to a year I started getting read errors with them.

I since started using Taiyo Yuden Premium Silver Thermal Lacquer 8X DVD-R Media and have had no issues with those backups that i have burned a few years ago.

Well my wii doesn't like Sony DVDR's at all, only played them a couple of times and makes a bit of a noise compared to if I burn the same game on a ritek disc, go figure  ???

I have installed several InFeCtuS 2 chip in Wii's (PAL's and NTSC-Japan's), so far the 1.8 firmware have only worked properly in one of the Wii:s.
If I use 1.7 it works fine, I have not tested several different combinations, but even with original PAL and NTSC-Japan DVD games the Wii's have had difficulties to read when using the 1.8 firmware.

Best regards
FrMi

If after an fw update there are problems to read some disk, the cause can be the region patch wires.

Region patch function is included in version 1.7 and 1.8. Why are there problems then with 1.8 and not with 1.7?

I think that Infectus says more like:"Could be the region patch wires..if they are soldered in wrong position (..ex, NTSC position on PAL Wii..) Wii has reading problems..isn't it Infectus?

IDCODE = 2a121cf     = A3P125 ARGON ... 1.8 and FW 3.1E ,Console PAL 13 + 4 .

WII

PAL ORIGINAL GAMES => Workin' perfectly

PAL BACKUP GAMES => Workin' perfectly

NTSC /US I Tested next games :
* Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles NTSC US  - Workin perfectly
* Crash TITANS (FREEZE when start game) 

GC

PAL GAMES (Dvd -R 16x type "Maxell" & Samsung PLEOMAX) :

*BOMBERMAN Generation - Workin perfectly
*Zelda Collectors Edition  - Workin perfectly
*Mario Power Tennis        - Workin perfectly
*Eternal Darkness            - Workin perfectly

NTSC GAMES (Dvd -R 16x type "Samsung PLEOMAX")

* Fire Emblem Path of Blue Flame - Workin' perfectly


It does' last verify ! :)

All great for all gamers !

y , but not only. If you have a bad solder for one region wire, it can cause problem on original or other disks.

hi i don't have a wii yet but son and ha a question.

wii will be pal.

how good dos gamecube games work on argon 1.8, pal on pal?

so i know what i can expectation.

I just experienced something strange recently with the new firmware.

My backup of Sonic Riders doesn't work as smooth as before. (Reading Errors, have to take the disk out and put it back in).

Anyway that's not the strange part.

I have another Wii running YAOSM 3.0 beta 6 here. (Both are PAL)

First of all the Disc seems to get warmer in the Infectus 2 Wii, BUT somehow I CANNOT skip the intro Video on the Infectus 2 Wii but I can on the YAOSM one.

Any Idea?

EDIT:
I tried 2 different WiiMotes and both are updated to 3.2E.

Downgraded to 1.7 --> doesn't work.


AHHHHH ok fixed it... I forgot to unplug my Gamecube controller...

Anyway still got the reading errors in the Infectus Wii. I think it might spin the Disk too fast, since it becomes warmer than in the YAOSM Wii.

That might be the reason for better acceptance of Disc burned at faster Speed too.

ive been having some unable to read disk problems with this new firmware when i was on 1.6 it was working fine

Disc temperature depends on a ton of different factors. I dont think you should really be comparing it between completely different versions of the Wii. Unless you have real proof that the disc is spinning faster w/ the argon than without it.

A few others have mentioned that they feel the disk is spinning faster than the previous versions or something has changed in the reading of the disc.  I know that after upgrading to 1.8 that the Wii is noticeably louder than before, playing the same game.  It seems to me that sometimes the laser is working harder to read the disc or rereading a disc because it cannot read it.

I'm not trying to bash the Infectus team but like others only trying to help by providing input on problems.    The Infectus team I know is working hard but they are the ones who are benefiting most us since they are getting FREE testers for their chips in addition to making money off of chips sold.  There is no point for people to make up stories here since it does not benefit us.   Don't make excuses for problems by asking for proof   If you don't believe it, then move on.  Don't doubt people or else people will stop posting their experiences.  It will not help anyone in that case.

Thank you for assuming lots of things, but you completely missed my point. Comparing two completely separate Wiis (different DVD drives) and "measuring" something as unstable as temperature with your hand is basically useless.

I even noted the problem with the laser sounding overworked in one of my posts, so don't assume I'm some apologist for infectus or something like that. It's ok to make claims when you have something to back them up. Irrelevant information can get in the way of real problems. That's what I was pointing out. Comparing "temperature" between 1.4/1.6 Argon and 1.8 would've been slightly more useful (maybe).

Hi, i noticed that sometimes, when playing a backuped game, all works fine. When I changed the disk to SMG the wii couldnt read the disk with fw 1.8. When I switched off the wii and started again, then no problem exists anymore.  I never had this problem with earlier FW versions.

Unfortunately I don't have anything to measure the temperature in a representative way. They are not 100% different drives. You can actually put the D2C Board in and old Wii and vice versa so only the board is different. Anyway the main thing I wanted to mention was that skipping the intro (solved by unplugging the Gamecube Controller). Just noticed the reading failures and "slower spinning" disk by accident.

Of course that is true but we weren't talking about the life of a disc, the OP said the Wii was fussy with media and buring software and I said it wasn't for me....  :)

Whats your point?

There where a few users that said they use cheaper media perfectly fine. All I added was the life spanned of cheap media is less then better quality media. If a newbie reads that cheap media will work due to previous post then they might think wow I will save some money and use cheap media. When in the long run you will probably spend more money due to the life spanned being less with cheaper media. So I felt it necessary to add that info for newbies so they are not misled by the previous post of using cheap media.

Hm, i wonder.
NONE of my Gamecube Games on Mini-DVD-R (Verbatim) works, but they all work on my Gamecube. That's really weird.
Is that maybe because of the Mini-DVD-Format?

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YES ... the MINI DVD is THE CAUSE!!! Change the mini dvd in a NORMAL DVD SIZE! ALL WORK !!! ;)

i notice a problem .. whenever i put in a different region disc for the first time it will load and i have no problem playing it but whenever i change to another region disc after my first i got problem reading the game. it will give me unable to read disc message. i will need to turn off the wii for abt 30sec to 1 min then turn on it again and then the game can be read and run with no problem. this problem only exists when playing other region game , have no problem switching games from same region.

Btw im have a ntsc wii 3.2. I guess its a region stability problem, anyone else have this problem?

Same problem for me,

All fmv in all games jumps but apart from that they work ok,

Cant open up the wii to check install as i will void the pro installers warrenty,

Burned on different media with different speeds, still jumps,

I know people are saying its not a firmware issue as they have  the same setup, could it be due to different wii hardware

many of you are only focusing on the media. The burner is also an important factor. Not any burner works good with different kinds or media. It's the combination of the two that need to produce a reliable disc that the wii can read. Stuttering in game movies really indicate a read problem. I say try a good burner like pioneer and use media that is known to work well like ritek g05 or verbatim dvd-r

ive only got a laptop with a nec 6650a burner,

Im already using verbatim dvd-r, Ill see if i can get a pioneer usb dvd writer today

Wow alot of feedback for this firmware version. Does that mean after all of this it's better or worse then 1.7 ? Because I think 1.7 is better for me.

I don't think 1.8 plays any more games then 1.7 does it ?

Problem solved,

It WAS the dvd burner in the laptop,

I just bought a liteon external dvd burner today from pc world for £39.99 and burned mario galaxy again and it works perfect fmv and all

hi all im new to the modding scene and i was wondering wich dat file to use to use i have an argon chip in my wii and an injectus programmer. ive hooked everything up but when i click read id code a box pops up not active now i dont wanna end up with a bricked wii
thanks

Is your Wii switched on?

That happened to me, too. I found somewhere over at psx-scene forums what colors of dots correspond to what version of the chip you have. After I loaded the DAT file I then clicked the read ID code and it spit it out, before i loaded the dat file i got the error message you're seeing. I would try loading each DAT file, hitting Read ID Code, and seeing what it says, it will probably give you an error for one and no error for the either. There shouldn't be any harm in simply loading the DAT on your computer as long as you don't hit any button that says "program" on it. Perhaps someone else can confirm this...

i tried the wrong one at first and clicked program, the program gives an error saying you're using the wrong dat.

Just to report, using my wizard skills, I was able to get the US version of my brawl backup working w/out any problem on 1.8 argon. i burned it on a verbatim dvd+r dl at 2.4x w/ imgburn and used the layer break. it plays online and runs very smoothly!

good luck to everyone!

I'm having problems with my argon the install is correct its the 13 + 4 install for USA NTSC. I have checked and rechecked about 50 times and I have checked with a multimeter for cold joints which I have none.

I'm using a LG GSA - 4163B and a LG GSA 4167B and Memorex DVD - R media. I have updated the argon to 1.8. To create my images I have a LG 8164 which I know makes the images correctly.

Real wii games work but all backed up games do not work. Some will crash immediately and others after the wii wrist strap warning screen.

Is it my burner or my media or both

Please help this is really frustrating.

Thanks

Isn't there a way, that in a future Update the NGC-Games on the Mini-DVD will work?
...because, ihave every of my NGC-Games on Mini-DVD :/.

Both. Try a Pioneer 112/115D with Verbatim DVD-R and burn 4x speed.

Can you guys post this on the Argon's main page (http://infectus.biz/argon.php)?  I like just having to check one page to see if there are any new firmware updates.  Thanks for considering, and good work on fixing GameCube games once and for all.

It's not on the main page 'cause it's still BETA..
..few more positive feedback and it'll be final and on website..

Quote from: mobius82 on Today at 11:43:13 am
I'm having problems with my argon the install is correct its the 13 + 4 install for USA NTSC. I have checked and rechecked about 50 times and I have checked with a multimeter for cold joints which I have none.

I'm using a LG GSA - 4163B and a LG GSA 4167B and Memorex DVD - R media. I have updated the argon to 1.8. To create my images I have a LG 8164 which I know makes the images correctly.

Real wii games work but all backed up games do not work. Some will crash immediately and others after the wii wrist strap warning screen.

Is it my burner or my media or both

Please help this is really frustrating.

Thanks

Both. Try a Pioneer 112/115D with Verbatim DVD-R and burn 4x speed.


Any other burners and dvd recordable media that people have had success with the argon and version 1.8 please let me know.

Any other burners and dvd recordable media that people have had success with the argon and version 1.8 please let me know.
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Maxell DVD -R 16x , Samsung PLEOMAX DVD -R 16x ... burn boot with nero 8 @ 4x !WORKIN' PERFECTLY ... Your problem is in NINTENDO WII CONSOLE with the WIRES !!! ;) MOST DVD have to workin' ...

Don't do that !

Let me explain you a recent problem i had.
I used DVDInfoPro to check errors on my fresh backups, done With Pioneer DVR-111D @1.29 / Verbatim DVD-R 16X (TYG03) at 4X. And i was very surprised to found quite a lot of errors, i mean really too much for quite good dvds burned with a recommend dvd burner.

So i tried to use over writing speeds and i found that @6X there was really less errors, @12X less again.

have a look at this, mostly the results, not the graphs :
(same dvd/source/hardware/software/etc)

@ 4X :crappy  :-\
(http://tsuiy0.free.fr/Wii/PIPO%20Scanning.png)

@ 12X better  8)
(http://tsuiy0.free.fr/Wii/Verbatim%2012X.png)


So, people, don't burn high speed DVDs (16x) at low writing speeds, that do not make your dvd better, but worse ! This is a urban legend  ;D

Amazing  :o

I said that 1 thousand times!!  ;D ;D ;D
Thanx Kierkegaard to bring proof!!

I had some luck switching to Sony DVD-R AccuCore 16x speed discs with my LG 4163B and 4167B.

I will try the maxells again but at 4x.

Here is the million dollar question anyone had any luck burning and playing dual layer backups like Smash Bros Brawl.

If so what dual layer media did you use and at what speed did you burn.

Also anyone know what other games are dual layer on a wii I don't know an easy way to tell.

Thanks,
Mobius82

A few SSBB threads have already been started. Would be best to leave this thread for firmware issues/testing instead of turning it into a SSBB thread.

i have now a wii whid an argon and try my NGC game and it is on mini dvd and NO ONE working, is it for mini dvd or samting ather. all game working perfect on gamecube befor my dvd reder crach.

Updated to 1.8?

just installed an infectus 1 with firmware 1.8 and the 13 wires schematic in a D2C PAL wii, and everything is good, maybe I should say perfect :)
keep up the good job guys :)

Mini dvd's dont work.
reburn them onto normal dvd-r.

Hi

I don´t find the 1.8 firmware as stable as the 1.4 firmware.


(1) If you turn off the Wii console and then immediately turn it on again, the Infectus2 often deactivate (fw1.8).
Then you sometimes had to turn off and wait 5-10 seconds or more, before you can turn it on with an active chip.

(2) Some Infectus2 chips in only working when the USB is connected to the PC.


Both problems can often be solved if you replace the Infectus2 chip, but it is strange that they always work perfect with fw1.4


I have installed 150+ Infectus2 chips at this point.

Excuse me if this sounds stupid, but doesn't the Wii drive read at 3x/6x speed ?

Of course testing the burned dvd's in the PC where you burned them at full speed will yield different results then when actually playing them in the Wii themselves.

I don't mean to argue with you, but isn't what your doing comparing two totally different things ?

Erh, i'm not sure about it but errors are probably physical, so wether you use a pc dvd reader or the wii dvd reader, the disc contains error and may cause reading problem.

By the way, i can't confirm that as i'm not a specialist, but that's my opinion about it.

It is possible to set the max. speed of the pcdvddrive in the dvdinfo program to 3x or 6x speed and then redo the test ?

it's to bad but i try to burn it on normel dvd-r

hows gos the work to fix all ngc game on argon :) hopp it kan be fixt for i like my games :D

dam my compter to be so crapy so i have to fix it now when my wii arive  :'( cant burn anything

keep the good work !

Yes it is possible but with a commercial release, i'm using the trial.

NTSC (US) Nintendo Wii
Argon Firmware 1.8
Super Mario Sunshine NTSC (US) Backup [Verbatim DVD-R]

I am able to play Super Mario Sunshine, but after getting the 5th shine, I seem to be getting a lot of black screens that suggest I turn off my Gamecube and check the manual. My Gamecube isn't even turned on, so this is quite baffling...

I noticed on the first post it mentions the game freezes after talking to the professor to get help, but I have played past that without errors, but now I'm getting the aforementioned screen. Does anyone know why I am getting this error? I have successfully played Super Mario Galaxy on my Wii with the exact same type of media, so I highly doubt it is a disc read error.

I burned Super Smash Brothers Brawl (USA) on a Verbatim DVD+R Dual Layer disc and I am getting tons of disc read errors. I used the layer break (user specified) when I burned it with Imgburn at 2.4x.

 ;D Argon 1.8 and Wii Freeloader = complete  8)

Just tested a backup Freeloader with No More Heroes (NTSC) on Pal 3.2

Works perfectly!!

This trick is working on Wii PAL 3.2E system without double channels using DVD5!!!
requirements:
- SSBB DVD5.iso
- Argon with FW 1.8
- Trucha Signer with common key: EB,E4,2A,22,5E,85,93,E4,48,D9,C5,45,73,81,AA,F7
- Wii VMC 2.2
- GenericWiiPatcher
- Pal Wii ;-)

1- update wii with latest FW (3.2E) via update system menu
2- run Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn PAL version. This will update the Wii without double channels (PAL update on PAL Wii)
3- use SSBB DVD5.iso (just missing some movies stored on the second layer)
4- Extract main.dol (2nd Partition)
5- Use the WiiVMC2.2 and drag the extracted main.dol to wii-vmc.exe
6- Then choose option B (Brute Patcher) and then choose option 2 (for 60Hz for PAL).
7- Now run main.dol in GenericWiiPatcher and remove the 001 error. No other options needed here!
8- Replace the old main.dol with the patched main.dol
9- Trucha Sign both of the partitions (right click on the paritions).
10- Burn (always use Verbatim DVD-R @ 4 speed)
11- load the game (Argon makes it work region free)

Put the game in your Wii at 60Hz. !!! The first 3 loading screens will appear flickery, during 25 seconds. If the SSBB menu screen is still flickery, find the SSBB options menu and turn off Deflicker. The game should now be full screen during fights with your PAL Wii on 60Hz.

Have FUN!!!

i have now try wii game and all work on pal on pal and 2 ngc,
luigis mantien pal
harvest moon MM ntsc

works perfect so far :D

mi happy

I have a weird issue with SSBB NTSC-U on a NTSC-U Wii. I think it's related to the firmware. I'm running the latest 1.8 firmware, and burned SSBB on a good quality disc.

After playing a GC or single layer wii game, it has a hard time loading up SSBB. It will either give me a read error right at the start of the game (at the intro), or it will not read the disc at all from the channels screen.

The solution is to hard power off the Wii by unplugging it or holding the power button, and turning it back on. After doing this, the game loads up and plays perfectly. The movies do not skip or anything, so I know it's a good copy, and a good quality disc.

SSBB works perfectly fine on my ARGON and have not heard of anyone else having this issue. It is probably a backup issue.

I found that with firmware 1.7 that the user defined layer break was necessary to keep this from happening when making backups of SSBB. Otherwise works great.

ssbb was burned with layerbreak. I can replicate the issue every time. After hard powering off the Wii, works great

I'm now wondering if this is the laser issue that everyone is talking about. My launch Wii couldn't read Dual Layer + R backups either. My kids figured out that they could boot the DVD-5 version and then do a disc swap to make it run the DVD-9 version. If you try this and it works, then I would say a laser adjustment could solve your problem. Don't attempt it without a multimeter or you could toast your laser.

Try hard powering off the Wii and booting from the DVD9 disc. I can boot up with the DVD9 version after doing this, 100% of the time.

I don't think it's a contaminated laser issue. My Wii is pretty new (< 2 months old). It also doesn't explain why it fails at the exact same place everytime... The intro scene where they show all the characters (the audio cuts out after 1 second, and then I get the error message).

Bikeboy.  I get this exact same problem with my Japanese Wii.  The Wii is practically brand new (maybe used 6 times), has never been around smoke and the only issue I have is when using 1.8 firmware and trying to boot a fantastic copy of SSBB.  It gets a few seconds into the character screen then throws up a japanese error message.  If I eject the disk, then re-insert it then sometimes it will continue loading after 30 seconds.

To be honest I think maybe it is the laser as it like gives up but then starts to try read again..  Can know for sure with out downgrading which I may do later today and post my results.

I did however hear a rumor that people who sent their consoles for 'cleaning' were actually getting back a better quality new laser?

Keep up the good work.

Chris

Has anyone tried burning Super Smash Brothers Brawl onto a DVD-R DL instead of a DVD+R DL?

I tried a DVD-R DL and it didn't work for me . Only tried once though. Also your laser doesn't have to be dirty to have laser issues. Some are saying from the factory they are not set strong enough. I turned the resistance from 800 ohms down to about 650 and it now reads Dual Layers just fine.

Better try other media first, this methode will reduce the life span of your laser...

Mike. I use only the best media available. Always Verbatim- R single layer and Verbatim +R Dual Layers. I only tried a Ritek -R Dual LAyer to see the result. As long as you don't over do the Laser Pot adjustment, the lifespan difference will be minor. My PS2 laser must be 10 years old and it still works fine. Brand new Wii lasers are only 49 bucks, so that's a price I am willing to pay for trouble free disc reading.

the video skips a lot if i play the game

but if i start the game and choose to reset with the wiimote, the game plays without any skipping

i definitely think something is interfering with the wii's normal operation

I had video freezing in SSBB. Argon 1.8 USA wii (not pal).

I changed my dvd burner for a pioneer dvr 212d with pioneer firmware 1.24 and now it plays perfectly.

No more freezing (SSBB burnt at 6x with layerbreak, verbatim made in singapore).

I reburned my other games as well with the new burner and have not had a single problem since (my old burner was an LG supermulti)

Don't underestimate your burner. For 35$, get a good pioneer.

Hi, i've not read all the statement in this thread, so ...

Since I upgraded to 1.8, I have the problem when I change the BK Disks, the next disk could not be read or read with many recalibations and errors..
If I switch off my Wii, insert another disk, I have no probs.  >:(

With older versions i've never had this prob.

Popo

PAL Wii 3.2E - Argon 1.8 Installed Using Alternate Method

Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games PAL
Ninja Reflex PAL
Pokemon Battle Revolution Wii PAL
Ratatouille PAL
Super Mario Galaxy PAL
The Legend Of Spyro - The Eternal Night PAL
Battalion Wars 2 PAL
Fishing Master PAL
Startrek - Conquest PAL
Super Smash Bros Brawl NTSC With NTSC.TO.PAL.UPDATES.REMOVED.PPF.PATCH-iND

All Working Fine, Nothing wrong with any of them

All Games are burnt at 8x except for the Dual Layer which is burnt at 2x

Gotta Say Firmware 1.8 is working a treat atm nice to see! Thanks again infectus love your work!

All these replies to this thread and I don't know for sure if 1.8 is an improvement over 1.7 or not  :-\

I was on firmware 1.8 and it didn't seem quite right to me. For some reason the games made a louder noise when loading up and just didn't like it so I went back to Argon 1.7 and have kept it ever since.

But just recently I went back to 1.8 because it said it had better media compatibillity and had troubles with 1 of my brawl copies. Worked sometimes and sometimes gave me a error. But the other copy was perfect. But I thought I would try 1.8 to see if it would read my discs better. But to my surprise it didn't read any of my Brawl discs and 1.7 did.

So I'm thinking that 1.7 has better compatibillity then 1.8. Does anyone else want to try this out also to see if it's just me.

Maybe 1.7 is better overall then 1.8 ? after all this thread, I don't think anyone has compared them , just from older versions I think ?

And also, is there going to be a 1.9 update ? Because I would still like some more GC games that don't work properly and if possible better dual layered support. That's if it's the chip and not the laser, thanks.

I just flashed back to 1.7 (had 1.8) and now my el cheapo dual layer disc with SSSB now works.
with 1.8 i didnt show up in the channel and with 1.7 it works.
i used an arita dvd+r dl which i use for my xbox 360 also.
so media compatibility for 1.7 is better as 1.8.

I also flashed back to 1.7, because of choppy video problems in 1.8.
After flashing back to 1.7 all games with choppy video worked great with smooth video.
So the problem with choppy video is defenitely a firmware problem and not a disc problem.
I tested with super mario galaxy PAL with my wii on 480p.
In firmware 1.8 it has choppy video from the beginning where the pirate ships appear in the sky.
With firmware 1.7 no problem !

So 1.8: Great, but choppy video
1.7: All is smooth

Hopefully the choppy video playback will be fixed in 1.9 (if there's gonna be a 1.9 now wasabi has a higher priority). In the meantime I continue using 1.7

Maybe Infectus can enlighten us ?

Since I just experienced the same thing. Choppy and movies freezing in SSBB on Pal Wii with Argon 1.8. Reflashed it with 1.7 and the same disc is now running without problems.

Reflashed it again at 1.8, choppiness was back.
Back to 1.7, no more problems.

Spoke too soon...still happening. I thought the latest Wii update made the problem go away.

Also noticed that with Mario Power Tennis (GC NTSC-U), I occasionally get disc read errors when it goes from the character selection screen to the actual game.

why don't you guys first try a decent burner and media. I have absolutely no problems whatsoever with choppy video or ssbb. And even though it might run better for you on 1.7 it still is crappy media and will only wear your laser down faster.

I just bought a new Sony DVD burner and I normally use Verbatim Dual layered discs, but I tried a New Ritek Gold dual layered disc that seems to be as good if not better then Verbatim. The cheap one I tried was just one I had lying around just for fun to see if it would work or not :)

But the reason I commented early about firmware is all these pages of replies and it doesn't really say much at all and just thought I would post that maybe 1.8 is a downgrade from 1.7 and to see if it was just me or if it works for others also. Because it would help the infectus team if they did decide to bring out another update.

This would not explain why the disc reads perfectly 100% of the time after a hard reboot. Choppy video issues are related to poor media.

I wasn't particularly aiming at your problems which are strange enough. I don't have such issues

i have a good burner and used high quality discs and my ssbb always skips during the beginning of the intro, then the intro pauses and the laser sounds like it's relocating itself and then the game won't skip at all, no matter what, even if i play 30 hours in a row ( tested )

if  i reset, the intro plays fine

the laser can read the disc fine, it's just doing something stupid that i think the firmware is causing

One again: The choppy video in some games on 1.8 is not caused by bad media.
I use verbatim DVD-R and tried burning on 2, 2.4, 4, 6, 8 en 16 speed. I also tried several burners. All with the same result.

When a disc works perfectly smooth in 1.7 and that very same disc has choppy video in 1.8 than it can't be the media.

Same media, same wii, same chip, same burner, same wii drive !!
The only difference is the firmware. something in firmware 1.8 causes choppy video.
At least on my pal wii, running on 480p.

Hey I got a theory about choppy video. If you mean choppy video as in it runs like slow motion and sound goes funny ?

If so this happened to me on my Brawl copy today. But what happened is that I changed my Wii settings earlier trying to get a Emulator to work. I cahnged the DISPLAY mode from my normal PAL 60 or 480P which I usually use and it was on PAL 50. Because I tried my Brawl copy in and it was really slow and sound stuttering I thought my disc stuffed up or something. Then I checked my settings and it was on PAL50. Changed it to either PAL60 or 480P (both work just as good) and it played perfect after this.

SO maybe depending on the region of the game, if you have your TV set to a different Region it might effect this choppy Video or maybe you's are talking about comething completely different to what happened to me. 

Just thought I would let's you's know incase it's the same thing. If not continue this really long thread  ;D

I ALWAYS use Verbatim media and Pioneer burners (have a 112D and a 115D). Don't tell me those are not decent brands ?

*nothing* is different in the entire setup except for the firmware version on the Argon :
1.8 : choppy/freeze
1.7 : everything runs smoothly

Riddle me this :)

Strange thing is thousands of people are running 1.8 with no problems. Pioneers and verbatims should have good results although verbatim does have a lot of fake discs on the market. Also there are various reports of verbatim dvd+r giving bad results. Remember it's not the quality or brand name that is the main factor. It's the compatibility of the wii and the media.  Maybe there should also be some more focusing on installation. Too long wires meam more interference.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. The problem only exists with SSBB.
Single layers are never a problem. (and for the record, I use Verbs SL DVD-R and DL DVD+R 2.4x).

Only thing I'm saying (and a lot of people with me) is that Infectus might want to take a look into the difference between 1.7 and 1.8 with regard to this choppiness (if that's a word).

I have no doubt about my installations, done over 70 Argon installs by now and never a single problem (apart from the occasional defective chip (3 so far..)) except for the SSBB issue (as said, only with 1.8..., if I put 1.7 on it, everything's peachy). And yes, my wires are short enough (as short as can be).

i flashed to 1.7 and still get choppy video briefly during the opening video

all other videos play fin as of 45% into subspace

I used ricoh dvd+r dl burned with pioneer 111 and no choppiness whatsoever. I am using freeloader though to run the game on my pal machine.

HEY GUYS readwhat I wrote 1 page back. If  you have choppy video, try changinf the screen settings from 50hz to 60hz see if this makes a difference, for for details go back 1 page and read my reply if it's the same thing ;)

Already tried changing the video mode. It doesn't make any difference.
And even if it would: It's not choppy in 1.7 no matter what video mode I choose. and I don't want to change the video settings for every game.
The choppy video is caused by firmware 1.8. I'm sure.
I went back to 1.7 and with the same settings everything works great. It's not the media and it's not the video settings.

Maybe there's some debug code left in 1.8 causing slowdowns?

Argon 1.8 Pal 3.2
OK wired SSBB working fine at 480p and only 480p which is good but thought it would only work in 60Hz? Anyway for help.

Burned onto Pidata Ritek 8x DVD+R DL @ 8x with layer break in imgburn 2.4

I've used verbatim dvd+r's! They work perfectly, but then again my wii has handled any type of media you can throw at it as long as i'm burning a wii game.

yeah my wii eats almost anything too but I have a lot of wiis over that are pickier. Not every wii is the same.

3 x Brand new Wii's (3.1)
(have upgraded one to 3.2)

infectus 2
1 x standard install
2 x alternate install
(all very short kynar wire, and thick power/ground)
(tried with and without region patch wires)
(tried at 50hz 60hz and 480p)

Pioneer 111D burner
Verbatim DVD-R and DVD+R
HP DVD-R
RITEK G05
burned at 6x on 8x media

All have worked perfectly on all Wiiktus released firmware up until 1.8.
With 1.8 the laser goes absolutely crackers and can hardly boot anything from any media at all. The laser sounds like its going to fall apart.

Flash back to 1.7 and you can't hear the laser at all and all media works perfectly.

Some wii dvd drives do not like 1.8 !!

From reading on forum that 1.7 would be better than 1.8 a made a "loading test"..

PAL Wii 3.2E..13+4 Install..
[..loading time = on open Disc Channel time started when insert the disk and stopped when games is recognized..]

..with Argon 1.8 [125]..
PAL
Wii Sports .. 21"
Super Mario Galaxy .. 18"
Far Cry Vengeance .. 16"
Resident Evil 4 .. 15"
Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles .. 16"
CSI Hard Evidence .. 16"

NTSC
London Taxi .. 16"

..with Argon 1.7 [125]..
PAL
Wii Sports .. 22" [+1"]
Super Mario Galaxy .. 18" [==]
Far Cry Vengeance .. 18" [+2"]
Resident Evil 4 .. 15" [==]
Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles .. 16" [==]
CSI Hard Evidence .. 16" [==]

NTSC
London Taxi .. NOT RECOGNIZED

..so, for me is better 1.8..
I have to check if some of my frends gave me some GC Game to test my Wii 'cause i tried some snes discs made with GCOS but they wont be recognized!

UPDATE: i took from my friend Mario Kart Double Dash! backup..it doesn't run..
..anyone has some idea on why on my Wii all Wii backups run fine but GC ones not?

It's probably true that 1.7 better than 1.8 but... there is more game cube games that work  on 1.8 than 1.7.

Hi

I have Argon 1.8 [125] on NTSC consol. (13 + 4 wires installation)
I use always verbatim DVD with a NEC DVD-Burner.
I never had problem with my DVD writer.

Me too I have choppy video with SSBB.

Also sometimes gamecube games : like mario party 7 is freezing.

When will be available a real stable version ?

I am a bit disappointed about what is happenning with this chip... and the stability of the 13 + 4 wires installation.

I hope the team dont stop working to find a solution with this installation (13 + 4 wires).

I am also getting the choppy playback with SSBB. This is with 1.7 and 1.8 firmware. Before anyone goes and blames it on the media or my burner. I am using Verbatim DL media, rated at 8X. I burned it at 2X, 4X, 6X (twice), and 8X. I have a Lite-On burner that is less than one month old with the newest fw. I tested my burned disks on a friends Wii, with a Wiinja, and there is no choppy video at all. Layer Break was done on all disks also.

I doubt this is a laser issue. My wii is only a couple months old, and other than the choppy video, the Wii reads game disks fine, DL  and regular.

This is NOT an installation problem. This was a professional mod, by one of the best modders in Canada.

My wii is a NTSC-U Wii with 1.8 fw. and Argon 13+4 wire mod. The wii is in a smoke free, animal free home.

All burns were done using IMG burn, setting the book type to DVD-ROM.

In addition, when I hit the home button, the movies catch up, and play normal for a couple seconds, and then the video gets choppy again. Obviously the drive is either reading too slow or too fast. But like I mentioned before, pressing the home key, allows the disk to catch up.

If your Wii is reading fine, don't leave a stupid comment. There are a ton of us, who are having problems with the Choppy video. Don't mention media, install, or dirty lens, this is not the problem.

Is your display settings on 50HZ ? If so try changing to 60HZ and see if it fixes the problem for Smash Bros.

This might sound crazy but I was having the same problem, it was also with SMG. The thing was is that I could have sworn that when I tested there was no choppy video. I relized the only difference was that I tested without the Flat cable installed. To cut it short I removed the flat cable,(it made no difference if the programmer was connected) and the video cleared up. I then verified the same thing on 2 more consoles I was installing Argons on. I've gat a Pioneer 212d burner and Verbatim -R DVD's. I even removed the cable while watching the video and it cleared up instantly. I've got a thread started on this in the technical forum.

D2C 1a 1.8fw 3.2U 

Thanks for that input, hopefully a fix will come soon, since having the flatcable connected is 'nice', to say the least :-)

Is there really NO way, to get my NGC-Games on Mini-DVD-R to run on my Argon :/?
That's kind of sad.

Currently no... Hopefully that will be fixed in 1.9 or 2.0 or whatever the next firmware will be. Unfortunately, Infectus and Oscar haven't been around on these forums much in the past week. Maybe they're hard at work on the new firmwares ;).

I have an Argon Chip. The chip was one of the original chips sent with the 1.0 firmware.
I have updated to 1.6 and have had no problems with my backups.

I tried the 1.8 and none of the previously working backups worked anymore. Moved back to 1.6 and they all work again.

If it is a chip shipped before Jan 15th what version of the chip do I have 125 or 250?

I am burning on good media with a good burner. I got my copy of SSBB to backup and it will show up in the Wii menu but not play. Now today my new Ninja Reflex game wouldn't play. I want to fix this...any suggestions? As I buy games...I don't want my niece and nephew to scratch the originals.....they come over every weekend.

I rip on a GDR8162b C2Duo running XP
Burn on a Mac 10.4.11 with a Samsung SH-S182M (updated Firmware to Dual layer)
I use Taiyo Yuden Printable DVD-R 16X Professional DVD's burnt at 6X
I use Taiyo Yuden Printable Dual Layer Professionals DVD's burnt a 2x

Mario Kart pal edition is not loading on a ntsc wii, anyone able to get it to load without patching the region

I got Mario Kart working on NTSC(3.2U) ARGON 1.8 firmware. First I used Wii BrickBlocker and it did not work. So I patched it with regionfrii and reburned it and it worked,

So as far as I know you need to regionfrii + BrickBlock the ISO and burn.

Or you can just remove the update and load it with Free Loader NTSC ;).

I used wii brickblocker only. for my NTSC-U wii... no problems at all.

Good evening. I've been reading in this post that once you have upgraded the firmware to 1.8 (using Infectus .3.9) you can downgrade to 1.7. My question is, how do you do it? According to the Infectus Team:

8- IMPORTANT COMPATIBILITY WARNING: The programmer 0.0.3.9 will update the INJECTUS / INFECTUS USB JTAG controller, after this update the old programmers will not works... the update is automatically started when you plug INFECTUS or INJECTUS to PC USB port.

As I understand it, you need Infectus .3.9 to upgrade to firmware 1.8 (and it only works with 1.8). You would need Infectus .3.8 Beta to downgrade to the firmware 1.7, but they say the programmers will not work once updated to be able to work with Infectus .3.9.
I hope my question is clear enough
Thank you

Hi, I've had the same problem as you. fw 1.6 seems more stable for me than 1.8. Backups like SMG and Metroid Prime 3 all could play on 1.6, but not 1.8.
So I have now switched back to 1.6. Hope the next firmware solves this issue!

People keep saying that no one is having this choppy video problem... Well add me to the list of those that are!

Here is what is happening to me.

Sometimes --- on Warioware Smooth Moves, when Wario is "eating in his chair" (video for Level 1), the video gets *really* choppy.   On SMG, when the boats appear, it gets a little choppy.

Now here's the interesting thing (which proves it's NOT bad media).   I can power off with the remote.   Power back on, run Warioware again, and it's PERFECT, no choppyness at all.  Same for any game with choppy video, or "slow" loading.  Any time I've done a "power cycle", the game has played perfectly for HOURS.  Perhaps the 1.8 firmware needs to be power cycled every time, to run a game smoothly?

I've also had issue where a game won't load right, it clunks and clunks, and loads really slow, or gets the black screen (even a couple of my *original* Wii discs in 100% mint condition, Zelda Twilight, and Link's Crossbow Training -- So how's that for a non-media issue?)  Again, I power off, power on, and it loads 100% smooth.

Now, since I couldn't compare to an earlier version, I don't know if this is the 1.8 firmware, or, if my Wii just has this problem? (it's a new Wii, but I modded it soon after opening it.  Which leads me to my next question below).

All I've ever used is firmware 1.8, so I can't compare to lesser versions.    I am waiting for a response to a post from another member, asking how to downgrade from 1.8 to 1.7, when Infectus implied that this was not possible after upgrading the programmer chip (which I did when I updated to 1.8).

I downgraded to 1.7 and it did not work. So I doubt 1.7 will give you any better results.

I have noticed that with the programmer plugged in, while playing the games you mentioned. The video would get worse, and would correspond to the red led blinking quickly right before the bad video.

I am not sure about powering off the Wii. I will try that tonight and see if that works. I would usually hit the home button, and then the game would catch up, and play fine for a couple seconds.

My experiences with Wario Ware + SMG were corrected when using a different burner. The media was not the problem, it was the laser. After reburning the iso, at 8X with at LITE-ON DH20AP, the choppy video stopped. I always thought this was the problem, just because my laptop NEC burner had been so much. You can tell that it was a multi burn cd just by the color of the burn pattern. Bottom line is you need to try and burn with a different burner, at a speed of at least 6X to 8X. Do not burn at 2X

The Choppy Video on SSBB has yet to be fixed. I still have the ISO, but I don't know why the video is Choppy on my Wii with Argon, and not of my friends wii who has a Wiinja chip.


Hope that helps. Luckily it is only one game. Luckily if you deleted your ISO, just use Clone CD on the bad burns, and reburn with a better burner at a faster speed. Check
newegg.com they have very cheap burners

I am using a Pioneer 111D DL burner, and TY DVD+R media 8x burn (both supposed to be very good quality).  And again, when I got the choppy video in Warioware, I immediately powered off, powered on, fired up Wario again (didn't eject disc or anything), and it runs great.  So I'm not sure how this can be the media?

BTW, I have been running with the programmer hooked up all the time, so I can see the disc activity lights.   Are you saying I shouldn't do this, or do you know if it will affect the disc reading, maybe be causing the choppiness from time to time?   I'll probably disconnect it, and see over the next few days if it seems to fix the problem.

Again the same question. Just want to be sure I'll be able to downgrade before testing. The Injestus Team say:

IMPORTANT REMEMBER!!!

1- WHEN YOU CONNECT "INJECTUS" TO A PC WHERE IS INSTALLED PROGRAMMER 0.0.3.9, THE LOADER INSIDE THE INJECTUS MICROCONTROLLER WILL BE AUTOMATICAL UPDATE... AFTER IS NOT POSSIBLE TO USE OLD VERSIONS OF PROGRAMMERS!!!

2- WITH 0.0.3.9 PROGRAMMER YOU CAN USE ONLY .DAT FILES INSIDE THE ZIP FILE, so YOU NEED EVER USE THE ARGON .DAT FILES STORED IN THE PROGRAMMER ZIP SUITE.

Pls. let me know if there are problems, here if we respect these two points all works well

BYE
OSCAR

So, how do you downgrade from firmware 1.8 to 1.7?
Thank you

You can't. And there isn't really any reason to downgrade to 1.7 AFAIK.

Just an FYI -- I took the plunge on trying a backup of my newly purchased (USA) Super Smash Bros. Brawl today (I hate to use the originals).

* I have the Argon V1.8 FW
* I had 3.2U updated from the Internet
* I burned the ISO image using IMGBURN, using the manual layer break method at 2.4x (Ridata 2.4x DVD+R DL media)
* When it booted the disc, it showed a System Update.  I accepted it.  FYI it still showed 3.2U after the update.  I have read it's really 3.2U V2
* After update, I powered off and on (for no real reason)
* It booted dual layer SSBB perfectly, and played the opening video perfectly with no choppiness (many others said this was choppy on theirs).
* The game seems to play fine (I only played it for about 10 minutes today)

So thats my SSBB experience -- now I wanted to mention about the FMV choppiness in general on 1.8 (or is it just my Wii?)   Whatever is causing it, it's really not a problem for me.  If the game has choppy FMV, I power cycle, and it always goes away, and it's never started again in the middle of a game.   So *if* it is 1.8, then I'd still prefer to stay with it over 1.7, as I hear that many more Gamecube games work with 1.8.   And despite what one Infectus team member said, I DO CARE about Gamecube compatibilty, and wish they would improve it further.   This point about GC compatibilty is the only problem I have with Argon/Infectus' attitude about their product.

Only the loader can't be downgrade.

The actel fw, can be update every time, with previous or later versions without problems.

But.... in the last programmer ( executable and loader ) we optimize the programming routine (much more faster) so is impossible use the previous versions. Other... actel modify it's dat file and these will be not compatible 100% with previous programmer.

Following Codone's test, I reburned my Copy of SSBB at 2.4 X on Verbatim DL rated at 2.4 X

My wii

NTSC-U
FW 1.8 Argon with 13+4 install
3.2U Wii firmware

I still get the choppy video after loading the game. As before, if I hit the start button it catches up.

I did the layer break also. This is on my a LITE ON DH20A4P burner, with book type changed to DVD-ROM

The single layer games have little to no choppiness.

Have you tried removing the flatcable completely? Most people that have seen choppy video no longer have the problem after removing the flatcable.

Use FW 1.7 and it will work, think i have had 15 - 20 pcs. out off 250 pcs. that wont run FW1.8, first i replace the mod, then i test FW 1.7 and all was OK.

Maby Infectus will fix this in the next FW so we can be-sure that the mod is working for the costumer when we have update it with FW1.8 for the costumer.

still cant get mario kart to wrk when updated to 1.8???any help???

Stop posting in every thread about your problem!

I have the same problem.   Come on Infectus team!!!   Lets see an update!   This crash is easy to reproduce.

I had a similar problem on the Wasabi firmware. I don't remember how I fixed it. The same thing would just repeat over and over and over again.

I think i just completely turned off the Wii. Turned it back on and as soon as that screen came up, I continuously presses A or start and eventually it skipped the screen and the rest of the game worked fine.

I'll see if I can get that to work -- I did think of that, and tried to hit start or A fast, it didn't work, but I only tried once.

On another note -- I tried SSBB again tonight (I'd only loaded it that first time, like I mentioned in my previous post), anyway, the opening movie WAS choppy for me every time now, and even power cycling the Wii, it remained choppy.   It would be choppy in slightly different places upon power cycling.  But once it started getting choppy, it remained choppy for the rest of the video.  I have the programmer hooked up, and when it gets choppy, the RED light really stays on bright.   And after the opening video, the drive just thrashes and the sound is choppy on the "press start" screen for many seconds.   Also, many of the selectable videos played okay (the E3 video, etc), but the "How to Play" video was choppy bad, just like the opening video.  For the record, this is the only game that I haven't been able to "power cycle" the Wii and get rid of the choppy FMV.

try unhooking the flat cable off the argon. if tht doesn't help it's the media

OK tested this in more depth over the last few days. I am using Mario Kart PAL on a PAL Wii with 3.1E. I get an error has occurred please refer to operating manual instead of lagging FMV. I have three backups on different media and these games work perfect on a YAOSM modded Wii. I have installed over 40 Argons and I have had this problem on many say 1 out of 4.

1)   Argon 1.8 FW followed installation instructions with case on = Error
2)   Argon 1.8 FW followed installation instructions with case off = Perfect
3)   Argon 1.8 FW used alternate instruction with case on = Error
4)   Argon 1.8 FW used alternate instruction with case off = Perfect
5)   Argon 1.8 FW used shorter wires and neater alternate instruction case on = Error
6)   Argon 1.8 FW used shorter wires and neater alternate instruction case off = Perfect

Conclusion, take the case off the Wii and it works perfectly. With the above information it is NOT an installation problem there is NO shorting the case is making.

1)   Argon 1.8 FW with case on = Error
2)   Argon 1.8 FW with case off = Perfect
3)   Argon 1.7 FW with case on = Error
4)   Argon 1.7 FW with case off = Perfect
5)   Argon 1.6 FW with case on = Error
6)   Argon 1.6 FW with case off = Perfect

Conclusion, the FW makes no difference.

1)   Ribbon cable folded like instructions with case on = Error
2)   Ribbon cable folded like instructions with case off = Perfect
3)   Ribbon cable folded like instructions with extra tape to stop it touching any metal with case on = Error even worse
4)   Ribbon cable folded like instructions with extra tape to stop it touching any metal with case off = Perfect
5)   Ribbon cable completely unfolded and hanging out the back of the wii with case on = Perfect
6)   Ribbon cable completely unfolded and hanging out the back of the wii with case off = Perfect
7)   Ribbon cable completely removed with case on = Perfect
8)   Ribbon cable completely removed with case off = Perfect
9)   Ribbon cable unfolded but run round inside the will with case on = Perfect
10)   Ribbon cable unfolded but run round inside the will with case off = Perfect

Conclusion, there is a fault with the ribbon or picking up of noise. To fix this the ribbon should be run flat around the Wii before hanging out of the case.

My thoughts, I brought 50 Argons and have silently been testing over the few last mouths and I appreciate that the mod is getting better however it is causing problems with customers and me. I am currently low on Argons but am unsure whether to order again as I have lost confidence in the quality of the modchip. I am seriously considering moving to Wasabi or D2Pro as I need something that is going to work. Even with the release of the SPI FW if the ribbon still causes this problem what’s the point in buying more? I hope you can fix this with a FW instead of me having to open every Wii I modded to correct a faulty ribbon.

You mean open the Wii, disassemble, and get the cable totally off?   Or just unhook the programmer, and leave the cable dangling?   I think you mean disassemble, lol, but I'm not looking forward to getting it all apart again (but I'll do it, if I have to)
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EDIT -- I just read the new post above -- sound like removing the ribbon may make a big difference, and may be the whole problem?  I routed my cable almost exactly like the YouTube video on PSXCare.

Jadgamez - can you post a picture, or explain exactly how you ran the cable, with the case on, that fixed the problem?

I'm going to totally remove my cable first, and experiment with Warioware Smooth Moves (seems to have choppy video a lot at opening FMV), SSBB, and trying GC Eternal Darkness (failed about 19/20 attempts using a couple types of media)  It's nice they have people like Jadgamez (and me) to debug their buggy product for them.

Sorry but my test machine is now fully closed up and I am happily playing Mario Kart without any problems NOW  ;D

I just ran the cable on top of the DVD drive then back round and out of the GC memory card ports. Used a bit of tap and make sure it doesn’t interfere with the drive mechanism.


Can a FW upgrade be made to ground the JTAG address lines so the ribbon cannot interfere with the Argon or something also those lines?

Okay, I got 95% rid of my FMV choppiness.  And the other 5%, it's GREATLY reduced to just the smallest blips of choppiness.   BUT, 9/10 times when I test SSBB or Wario Smooth Moves opening FMV, it works 100% now.  Note before I made changes, I had it bad -- maybe 1 out of 10 boots on SSBB would be clean.  Although I had much better luck on single layer games like Wario.. prob smooth 5/10 times.

My changes had zero effect on the Gamecube game Eternal Darkness... It still dies at opening, Edgar Poe.



Here's what I did, and what changes I saw:

(1) Removed ribbon cable completely from Argon 1.8

(2) Tested with case/metal shielding off --  WORKED PERFECTLY (meaning my 95% I assume, was perfect at the time tho)
    Note when I say it worked, that means I tested SSBB, Wario, over and over, powering off, ejecting disc, many, many, many times...

(3) Put it all back together inclucing metal shielding.  Immediately went back to the old problems...  Drive would CLUNK from time to time, and got choppiness on testing (FAILED)..  SOOO  this points (in my case) to the ribbon cable seeming to have nothing to do with it.

(4) Took off Metal shielding, retested again... WORKED PERFECTLY

(5) Put plastic case back on, no metal shielding.  Note, many screws will not tighten (must be left out) since the shielding is gone -- but, I feel there is enough screws still to keep it securely together.  STILL WORKED PERFECTLY.

I assume that if I had run the ribbon out at this point, it would't have affected me -- but until I do, we won't know for sure.  But, as per #3 above, removing the ribbon and putting it back together with metal shielding DIDN'T HELP me.

So I still hope Infectus will look into Eternal Darkness (USA on USA Wii) Gamecube game.  I tried DVD+R, and DVD-RW, both seem to fail identically.  I also found a thread on another forum about running the Action Replay on a unmodified Wii having the same crash??  I cannot confirm this.

I guess a question for people out there...  those that aren't having FMV probs, did you leave off the metal shielding?   Those that are having choppiness -- did you leave it INSTALLED?

More news on Eternal Darkness for Gamecube -- I got it to work!

After some research, I found a tool called FSTFIX V1.5F

I ran IMGBURN and re-read my GC backup of Eternal Darkness to ISO, and ran:

fstfix eternaldarkness.iso t g

The options do the following:
 ** FSTFIX image.gcm t           = ALIGN 32k (Force all files on 32k)
 ** FSTFIX image.gcm g           = ALIGN + 3GIGASIZE.

I did NOT do the audio streaming fix (the 's' option).

It's booted perfectly through the intro to the main game menu 4 times in a row.  Note that this was a valid image, 1.4 gig in size to begin with, not some compressed chopped image.  So, if you are having any troubles with a gamecube game on Argon 1.8, I suggest trying the above.

Thank you codone that worked like a charm for eternal darkness.


Download fstfix.exe v1.5f here http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=631

More info here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/217971

I have a wii pal, with infectus 2 and firm 1.8 installed, i dont have any problem with my wii backups, also with gc ones,  but i want to play mario party 5 (GC), because i have 4 pads for gc........not the same for wii..........

When i run my mario party 5 back up, the screen goes black.........i try another backup and the screen went to green, but any of two runs..... I try to change the region.......and is pal..............can anyone help me?, now the firm is running for a long time.............??? thanks........

Its a valid image not compressed..........

It's wierd one person can play a certain game with the same Region Wii and same mod chip and another can't. Maybe it has something to do with thith what program you use to burn your games or media. Or do you think it could be the different drives in the Wii ?

I'm not sure, but I can't get Mario Sunshine to work at all. Anyone eolse got this to work at all ? Btw, it's on a multi disc with 3 other games so not sure if this makes a difference, but the other ones work.

I burn it with imgburn, its the only backup with problems, the only one.

My media are TDK, and are quality devices..... 

I try last night passing the tool posted above, but its the same, screen back to black....

If I pull the ribbon really hard, will it come out without damaging the chip or the Wii? As of now, I can play VC games, Wii games and a couple GC games. SSBB usually gets choppy during and only during the intro video, but it pauses for a second and then plays fine. I don't see any updates improving anything for the Wii, so I don't think the ribbon is useful anymore.

I'm having problems with my install. I have the 060 Infectus2, and all wires were checked with multimeter making good contact. The firmware was flashed smoothly as well. The Wii refuses to read any back up disks. Any back ups would result in a disk read error. This isn't my first install and the last install went perfectly. Have D2C wii and Infectus II, wiiktus setup (not wasabus). Previous working install was a D2B.

No, you cannot just PULL the ribbon cable out!   You could, however, easily take the Wii apart (if you get the $4 tri-wing screwdriver) and remove it correctly, it's not too hard.  The ribbon cable is probably taped in a few spots, also, it could be running through some areas where it would be bound up if you tried to pull it.  Not to mention, it's "snapped" into the connector on the modchip.  Be very gentle and patient removing tape, etc, as you don't want to break the delicate ribbon cable.  I used the PSXCARE video as a guide to take my Wii apart the first time.  It's probably not causing you any trouble in the first place, but some people say it could.  As per my post above, I got my choppy fix from taking the Wii apart, and removing the metal shielding (maybe it was causing extra pressure on the drive ?)  With the metal shielding out, many screws don't have anything to screw back into, but there are enough to keep it securely together for normal use.

Anyone gotten Super Mario Galaxy to play beyond getting into the first telescope?

I keep getting "disc cannot be read" error.

Yes SMG is playing fine on  my pal argon.
Get verbatims -r and bake your dvd again on 8 speed.

Moved to Technical section...  ;D